ILR Show Division Performance Committee Minutes - September 30, 2009
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ILR Show Division

PERFORMANCE COMMITTEE Minutes
November 3, 2009

Meeting called to order 8:05 EST

Members attending: Debi Garvin, Tami Lash, Jim Krowka, Patti Morgan, Tom Rothering, Bill Safreed.

Agenda Item #1

Minutes from last meeting unanimously approved.

Old Business:

Updating driving document.

After the last GB meeting Tami sent the following to the group:

Question asked by the GB at the last meeting regarding Rules, Definitions and Guidelines Part 2 11 A.). In pleasure/open road driving if a header is needed to keep an animal moving continually in the ring or on the course  that animal is not ready to drive 'with cart', and may be dismissed from the ring and moved to a ground driving class level. A header or assistant can be provided by drivers to assist with judge's inspections if necessary and problems or "stall-ups" in the ring or trial area. Use of header will be considered a fault and will reflect in the final class placing.

Question was asked as to how this will be done at shows, as to the judge asking for exhibitors to leave the ring, etc.

Options were to remove this altogether.

In email discussion post meeting the following was approved:

Rules, Definitions and Guidelines Part 2
11 A.)In pleasure/open road driving header or assistant can be provided by drivers to assist with judge's inspections if necessary and problems or "stall-ups" in the ring or trial area. Use of header will be considered a fault and will reflect in the final class placing.

Discussion on pack document sent from Patti:
This discussion continued from the last meeting involving concerns of inconsistency in judging and competitor knowledge regarding pack systems, specifically related to putting on and taking them off.  Patti had put together a draft of a document sent around via email prior to this meeting. After discussion on points contained in the document and points for revision suggested, it was agreed another draft would be presented to the group.

The group is still working on this via email discussion.

Novice animals & performance champions:
The topic of youth llamas with considerable experience competing in the novice adult classes remains an issue of considerable concern about this being unfair to other competitors in these classes. To the committees understanding, it has been the youth who receive the points in youth classes, not the llama.  The committee unanimously agreed that the only fair way to resolve this situation is for the llamas to earn points regardless of whether they are competing in youth or adult classes. In that way once a youth llama earned the 35 points they would no longer be eligible for novice and must compete in advanced or open classes. The question remained regarding the cost and difficulty of programming this into the software and it was agreed the committee needed to acquire this information from the ILR office prior to making a recommendation to this effect. 

Camelid Companion Series doc from Debi, and with Jim's comments:
Since the last meeting Debi had sent via email a draft outline of the new proposed Camelid Companion series. Discussion involved basic aspects of this new addition to performance. It was decided that Debi and Jim would work on this privately and when in a more complete draft form present it to the committee for approval prior to sending to the GB. The priority would be to have a presentation regarding this ready for the next meeting of the GB.

New business:

Youth committee request for input in Youth judging manual.
Various aspects of the performance section of this manual were discussed. Discussion raised no significant concerns or questions. It was noted that the number of tasks to judge in these mock classes should be consistent with real shows, 8 being an agreed upon number.

The next meeting scheduled for Tuesday, December 1, 8:00 p.m. EST

Meeting adjourned 10:10 EST

Respectfully submitted,
Jim Krowka
Secretary